[blobbers]

Try to take a period of reprograming, where you just stick with it. Also consider a detox. Get all the garbage you don't want to eat out of the house, and insist on not buying it. Whenever you get a craving, just go drink water instead.

Lastly, consider carnivore or alternate day fasting. You can get there, if you want to.

[krainboltgreene]

> Try to take a period of reprograming, where you just stick with it.

While I'm sure you mean well, but "just try harder for longer" isn't new advice and certainly not good advice. All evidence we have is that you are entirely unlikely to stick it through. Dopamine is the most powerful mechanism in our existence.

[jimmydoreornot]

I have done fasting, I have done alternate day fasting. I have done fast-5. Yes, I can get there if I want to.

My point is that "there" is a miserable place, and so I don't stay "there".

[keybored]

Since you haven’t tried low-carb: low-carb is supposed to go well with intermittent fasting and fasting because of the effect it has on your insulin.

[jimmydoreornot]

Yes I need to seriously try low-carb.

BTW, I have (controlled) hypertension, (controlled) high cholesterol, high triglycerides, low HDLs, and a large beer belly gut (just like my dad, but unlike my brother)... but I have hba1c on the low end and high insulin sensitivity. Doctors used to insist I was on the path to diabetes (25 years ago), but now they are mystified. I chalk it up in part to fasting and drinking a lot of coffee, and my revulsion towards sweet tasting food (I love fat, starch and salt... but not sweet).

So I have a lot of doubt about insulin-related explanations given my well controlled blood sugar. But I still think hyper low-carb might work.

As an aside, long-distance running works to a limited extent. I drop weight without trying and my hunger does not increase. Other forms of burning calories, however (e.g. bicycling), have not had the same effect.

[blobbers]

Would recommend you all check out Dr. Jason Fung.

Alternate day eating etc.

He's a nephrologist that works to control diabetes.

[lozenge]

They said they lost 25kg and your response is "it would have worked if you had kept at it for longer"?

Your view is contradicted by the scientific evidence.

[stjohnswarts]

I just want to add that a "detox" as a holistic medicine approach is total bullshit. If you're talking about hitting reset on what you have in your house then that's different. That's just getting rid of temptation.

[blobbers]

Yeah detox your house.