[throwaway22032]

The idea that you think there is a "right" and "wrong" here is bizarre. You have a different value system to me, that's all.

Collectivism results in a world I and many people I know don't want to live in, so we reject it.

And yeah, we have to resist it quite harshly, because there are a lot of you guys who'll try and impose it on us via force. Good luck.

[spacemanmatt]

I don't have to be right for you to be wrong. That is your core logical error, here.