[frankharv]

The line about "Grooming" was also very ambiguous. What is the legal definition of grooming?

[weikju]

It's a very specific term when referring to this subject matter

https://www.rainn.org/news/grooming-know-warning-signs

> grooming: manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.

[pessimizer]

No, it's a retcon. Every kind adult in my life would have retroactively become groomers if they had later molested me. It makes being nice to kids a suspicious act, which is fine for me because kids annoy me, but is not good for kids.

[hunterb123]

> become groomers if they had later molested me.

I mean, yes? What would you call it?

[voakbasda]

I would argue that most corporate marketing to consumers meets each and every one of those criteria.

[cyborgx7]

You would be correct. Marketing in general and advertising in particular is a villainous practice.

[hunterb123]

Yeah child trafficking is almost as bad as villainous targeted advertising /s

[cyborgx7]

what?

[ycombinator3]

There is nothing remotely specific about "manipulative behaviors".

[hunterb123]

That's why it's followed by specifics (...that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.)

Of course taking two words out of the statement without context makes it less specific.