[bobthepanda]

Particularly in the realm of traffic, they tend to flout the law as well; go to nearly any police station and there will be both police and personal cars parked on the sidewalk, or illegally parked in spots.

What makes it particularly galling is that they also oppose automated enforcement of traffic laws. Officially it is because it would take away jobs (that they are not doing, since traffic enforcement in NYC leaves a lot to be desired), and unofficially because the police themselves benefit from the discretion exercised by fellow officers refusing to enforce laws on their colleagues.

[wjnc]

Oh my. My city recently got a few of those vehicles doing automatic parking fines. They were so good the number of fines was national news. There is something to be said for 100% enforcement of these rules. NYC is a boon for AI powered enforcement in that respect. Imagine all video enforceable traffic violations being automatically and instantaneously ticketed. It would change the city (and the cops).

[konschubert]

Why is “this would take away jobs” an argument that can be made in any non-communist country?

[quickthrower2]

Mostly it isn’t unless it is one of those jobs that isn’t needed most of the time but sometimes like for example a soldier or rural fire service and some bean counter thinks yeah we can slash that.

Getting rid of the job gets rid of the people with experience, so it can be a one way switch.

Normally solving a problem with a robot creates more jobs. There are speed cameras, but still you have hidden manually operated speed traps and it frees up resources for drug and alcohol testing.

[dahfizz]

In a democracy, people vote for things. People also want a job. People are not going to vote for things which will lose them their job.

[jokethrowaway]

And when you're the government you don't want to lose employees.

Propaganda will make sure this won't even reach the average citizen.

[bobthepanda]

Police is an interesting edge case, where at least in 2022 the people who want to reduce police are firmly on the left, and those firmly on the right want to cut everything except police.

There was an attempt to defund police, and that went down with the electorate like a lead balloon.

[throwaway0a5e]

There are broad swaths of the left and right that want as little to do with law enforcement as possible.

It's the moralizing religious right and the jackbooted ivory tower left types (both of whom think they know exactly how other people should live) that want lots of policing.

[bobthepanda]

Not to get too far into the weeds here, but Eric Adams, the black mayor of NYC who was formerly a police officer, was certainly not voted in by either the religious right or the ivory tower left.

[ivanbakel]

> Why is “this would take away jobs” an argument that can be made in any non-communist country?

Because a capitalist economy is rooted in self-interest. Labour bodies have power to shape the economy, and they represent the interests of their members, who don't want to lose their jobs.

Plus, people are not perfect market actors with such little empathy that they are willing to abandon their colleagues for a bit more workplace efficiency. So if you know that Bob in your office will be fired due to automation, and you like Bob (and worry you are next), you're going to oppose automation.

[jokethrowaway]

Because all countries have an element of socialism and it's fairly significant.