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>People tend to care about the elderlies,

Given our misreaction to covid and failure to protect the elderly. Your point seems to be disproven. If we treated covid like it wasn't the spanish flu and actually protected the elderly like we should have. Perhaps that would have been much more intelligent a move. Obviously hindsight is 20/20.

>while it's true that vaccination doesn't prevent infection , it prevents serious disease and the cost for the prevention of such serious disease has now plummeted to less than 5 dollars for the mRNA vaccines and less than a dollar for AstraZeneca.

In my point of view. TDAP or MMR prevent infection. These are fantastic vaccines that everyone should get.

If a vaccine doesn't prevent infection... well I'll give you that it's still a vaccine. The failure of the covid vaccine to prevent infection and having misinformed so many people that it does... forces the question if the TDAP or MMR also have similar misinformation. There will be a huge new boost of antivaxxers of real vaccines like TDAP/MMR because of this failure. This is a tremendous failure in public health. We will be experiencing these consequences over the next few years.

Not to mention, the ethics of misinformed consent of medications and coercion that has taken place to get people to get the covid vaccine.

>It's a no brainer to take the vaccine as opposed to therapeutics which are much more expensive and need perfect timing.

As I said, I am fully vaccinated. My government has decided that a booster will now be required in order to board a plane or train. I certainly won't be getting a booster until this coercion ends. I suspect quite a large number of people will be similar to me.

>Talk is cheap, actions matter. 75+ percent of the population is vaccinated,

That 75% got their shots very early. If you look at vaccine hesitancy or booster hesitancy in 2022 it's the majority. In fact my government has been delaying labeling 'fully vaccinated' as requiring a booster because so few have gotten a booster. They realize the coercion has already impacted covid vaccine. Wait until we start to see the grander consequences with impact to TDP/MMR. With 0.004% mortality for covid... nobody should care about covid at all.. but causing vaccine hesitancy on TDP/MMR what a complete disaster of public health.

>if this was a disease which killed 10% of the infected you bet that the remaining 15% would use their bullying to skip ahead of the queue and be injected as soon as possible as

Talk is cheap but something happened between the original 2 shots which 75%+ of people received and now far fewer got the 3rd shot let alone the 4th which is more or less timing wise is now required. 4th shot is generally available and virtually nobody has gotten it. Do you understand what this means?

If say the next wave of covid is 10% mortality. People aren't going to be lining up for a booster, they're going to ignore public health. It's quite unlikely the government could even mandate masks any more without massive protests.

> opposed to using it to pick fights on twitter and doxx people because they are related to somebody who attended Davos sometime in the 80s

I'm not a proponent of the WEF stuff.

However, it seems you acknowledge that people are so distrustful of public health. Some people are trying to understand why public health distrust has become so bad and they are finding answers in conspiracy theories. Most people from my anecdotal experience is they dont care the reason behind it and have moved on with their life. WEF isn't a factor at all.