[Spivak]

Look, I like music and just used it as an example of something that simply couldn’t happen two generations ago. The idea that artists like her can sell out shows in every city to a fanbase of queer women used to be unheard of.

If you want a less niche example my hometown’s pride used to be less than 1000 people in the 80’s and now is half a million.

[dillondoyle]

I'm with you. I was genuinely asking.

[Spivak]

In that case, hell yeah! She’s really funny and down to earth live. The whole crowd going nuts screaming “they’re so pretty it hurts” gave me so much life.

Sorry this thread is swinging so hard between folks who clearly have an axe to grind with the lgbt community and people who are shocked it’s still this bad in 2022 that I’m just defensive by default.

[dillondoyle]

Nice!

Yeah I just went to read comments (of course more crazy replies) after posting in the ACLU thread.

I was shocked again at the crap people on this forum are writing in that thread too.

Maybe you're right I shouldn't be shocked anymore. I've always known, but ben lucky enough not to have to experience very much, of the hate.

But it just feels so much worse. Not just on queer ness but on anything not white-male christian.

Or at least it's more vocal. Like why do these people feel the need to write this stream of crap on hacker news....

I can't decide which or both of these: - Emboldened by leaders & media to allow them to speak out already held beliefs (the silent majority except that's a euphemism). - This craziness has actually shifted, been created, and or amplified. Not just on LGBTQ issues. look at the ACLU thread (re lots of white males talking about overt discrimination because of diversity inclusion training and even more crazy q stuff like fbi false flagged jan 6 wth).

I think it's both.

On this topic for instance I very much doubt people knew let alone cared about trans girls playing on their high school sports team before we made progress to the point there were out trans high school girls and then it became a political punching bag. And now as a result some states and politicians are emboldened to pass dangerous laws that will cost even more lives.