[david422]

> not only not necessary, but also a hindrance

It's always necessary. We've learned that with http connections, middlemen can inject adware or other crap into the page. https://www.infoworld.com/article/2925839/code-injection-new...

[Wowfunhappy]

Google, Apple, Microsoft, Raymond Hill, and others also have this ability, even with https, depending on your OS and browser. It all comes down to who you decide to trust.

You've made a judgement call that ISPs are inherently less trustworthy than every other party in the chain, but I don't think you should make that decision for everyone else, particularly given that you don't know what ISP they have.

[forgotmypw17]

With HTTPS connections, compatibility problems or even a clock which is set wrong can keep someone from accessing important information.

Not to mention that you are at the mercy of the SSL authorities.