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by kajecounterhack 1513 days ago
> With a little bit of thought around how to show that the work you are doing actually is valuable to your organization's OKRs, you can get promoted doing whatever work appeals to you the most.

If you put yourself in the shoes of an L3 or L4, you know this is not exactly true. Who your manager is and what their priorities are, and how they view the promo process can greatly affect your ability to get a promo. I mean, before you can apply you need to get "strongly exceeds expectations" for two consecutive halves. If you do great work that you think benefits Google, but your manager doesn't think you've sufficiently demonstrated things on the rubric (e.g. "google-quality delivery" or "autonomy") you won't get a promo. Managers also have their own agenda and list of things they need to deliver, so you end up having to work on things they want you to work on, even if they don't help you tick the boxes in the rubric. If you're lucky and get a good manager who helps you play the game, these things aren't problems. If you're well-informed, you know how to bail when you encounter such folks. If you get unlucky or don't wise up to how it works, you can be set back many years in career progress.

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I don't see how any of this is specific to Google. Everything you've said here is how companies function. If you want to work on things that are not important to your manager, why should you expect anything? And bad managers exist everywhere.

My point here is that my managers thought the latency of Google Maps was important, doing good work on it got me promoted, it was not a product launch, and things like this are happening all the time across the organization.

Sure. I was just pushing back on the idea that "you can get promoted doing whatever work appeals to you the most." The "dot dot dot" that is required in order to make that work is a lot of luck, because your manager and their incentives factor so heavily into that. You got lucky -- plenty of folks do similar work and don't find as much support.