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> The more likely explanation is that the US wants to hurt Russia and NATO & co are tagging along.

Europe was out in front of everyone issuing sanctions before the US was able to come up with anything. All of Europe was singing the same tune of it's own accord. Watch Prime Minister's Questions (UK) and you'll see all the houses are united in a way I've never seen before. They're all trying to one up each another in proposing sanctions against Russia and the oligarchs. Trying to pawn this off as something the U.S. has somehow architected the almost unprecedented unity you're seeing across Europe beggars belief. It was Putin (not the U.S.) who talked the Fins and Swedes into applying to NATO. Putin is also the reason why Europe is arrayed against him in so many areas. Sadly, the Russian people are suffering for Putin's colossal blunder.

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Sanctioning and sending weapons has become a (dangerous) game of one-upmanship. But before it reached this point, Europe was very much split on both because it can’t stand up to Russia militarily and was also cautious about hurting Russia economically because that implied hurting itself. Many European countries also had and have connections to Russia.

The US was preparing sanctions around the use of the USD and SWIFT and around Nordstream 2 (despite what Germany might have wanted) in December 2021. And it’s the US which have set a goal beyond helping Ukraine of “weakening Russia”. I.e. more sanctions, more weapons, less possibility for negotiation.

The sanctions game certainly has a life of its own now, especially as Russia’s military stumbled, but I don’t believe it would have reached this intensity without motivation from the US. And who knows what diplomacy could have achieved if given a chance instead of continuous escalation.

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> The sanctions game certainly has a life of its own now, especially as Russia’s military stumbled, but I don’t believe it would have reached this intensity without motivation from the US. And who knows what diplomacy could have achieved if given a chance instead of continuous escalation.

Russia had a golden opportunity to stop the invasion before it began when Zelensky indicated that he was willing to forgo NATO membership and keep Ukraine neutral. That was really the only window, which Putin decided to ignore and invade. Almost from the moment the bombs started dropping on Kyiv and elsewhere, the window had closed. Europe has been driving the diplomatic, sanctions, and military aid the entire time, and the U.S. has been following their lead. Putin invaded Ukraine and made Europeans and Scandinavian countries question their economic and national security with his aims of reconstituting the Warsaw Pact. Putin bet big, doubled down, and it blew up in his face for once. The U.S. has been trying to convince Europe to ditch Nordstream 2 for years spanning multiple Presidents and gained absolutely zero traction. I don't see how this supposedly moved the needle in any appreciable way.

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Disagree on the US following the EU lead. Yes, the EU sanctions have perhaps more bite because of closer relations to Russia, but the EU required a lot of convincing and internal discussions to reach this point. There are important differences of opinion within the EU on how to handle Russia, whereas the US is fully behind its current course.

The seeds of today’s conflict had been planted one by one in the past 22 years and even beyond. What started as a an ambitious goal of an undivided Europe from Vancouver to Vladivostok ended because of inertia, decisions with unforseen consequencss and a level of mistrust into stark divisions between Russia on one side and the EU and US on the other.

This was not inevitable and indeed not the intention. 2011-2012 and the Western support for anti-government and anti-Putin protests in Russia marked a sharp deterioration of relations and the 2014 Maidan uprising, annexation of Crimea and Donbass war cemented the course we see today.

That the president of Ukraine indicated his willingness to forego NATO membership did nothing to change the above. Ukraine was training with NATO, receiving support and fighting an indirect war with Russia, so it seems unlikely that the words of the president were given much weight in Russia.