[notch656a]

> we don't know if they switched they could have just stopped using bitcoin altogether we have no way of knowing so the assumption of you that they switched

Did you not read the article? It literally quoted people talking about using other apps instead. Operative words: "Have transitioned." I didn't say EVERYONE transitioned, sure some likely did ditch 'bitcoin' entirely.

"Meanwhile, many living in tourist hot spots on the Pacific coast, where Bitcoin usage is highest, have transitioned to other crypto wallets, such as the privately developed Bitcoin Beach."

>Still not really helping grandma or the other 45% of the population that don't have a bank account.

Crypto and bitcoin doesn't require a bank account. Transitioning from chivo doesn't require a bank account.

>learned really fast is NIL.

Come again? Is this supposed to be some racist dig at Salvadorans to suggest they can't learn quickly? For many people using crypto can be more accessible than signing up for a bank account.

[throwmeariver1]

Most of them don't even have smartphones, only 50% of the population uses the internet and you are talking about learning to use crypto when they didn't even use a normal bank or google before.

Racist my ass, you entitled first world country geek.

[notch656a]

The majority has internet access, the super majority has social media account of some sort (at least by one survey) [0], and there are 1.5x as many mobile lines as PERSONS in El Salvador (with global market share of smartphones yearly increasing), and yet you use an acrid tone when discussing the notion of El Salvadorans having the ability to learn how to use crypto.

You paint a picture of people in El Salvador that simply isn't the case. The supermajority CAN get access to internet if they like. I have lived in the third world, including places poorer than even El Salvador, and for less than a common days wage even in war-torn syria you can pay a shop-keep for internet access at a cafe. Those of us who have spent time in the third world understand that people often share resources there, including computers and smartphones, so seeing the proportion of people who say have a smartphone is only a slice of the picture of who can actually get access to one (as an example, if only the wife of every household had a smartphone then the whole nuclear family would still effectively have access despite a much smaller number reflected on the statistics). Even having a cousin / uncle / whatever can be enough to be good for the extended family, as that person can serve as a nexus to internet based utilities to the family. These types of relationships often aren't reflected on the statistics, but people in the first world often don't understand this.

[0] https://datareportal.com/reports/digital-2022-el-salvador#:~...).

[throwmeariver1]

50.5% have internet access... nice majority. For the mobile lines just check how many there are registered in the US and you see how useless this number is especially in regards that you overlooked the smartphone penetration at all. I said nothing about that the people are inept of learning. That's all coming from you! I said it neither feasible nor practical for the majority ( :D ) of people to use crypto. Shared phones and computers... how practical instead of just using cash. Let me correct the statement of my last post: Racist my ass, you are a delusional first world country geek.

[notch656a]

>I said nothing about that the people are inept of learning.

I'm glad you finally acknowledge this point and have walked back from your prior odd rhetoric that suggested it was improper to think that someone without a bank account could understand crypto ("you are talking about learning to use crypto when they didn't even use a normal bank or google before.") And I'm glad you've walked back from your prior rhetoric thinking the ability of the people of El Salvador to have "learned really fast is NIL."

Characterizing an El Salvadorian as someone who "didn't even use google before" sounds a bit presumptuous, by the way, and probably isn't even representative.

You finally agree people aren't inept of learning but simultaneously believe they can't learn how to use crypto? Only a bit over 50% of El Salvador are women, does that mean it's useless to teach things that pertain almost exclusively to women? The fact that only the majority and not supermajority have regular personal internet access isn't an argument against the ability or even the notion that many or even most people having knowledge of crypto if they so desire it.

The fact that only the majority have personal ready access to internet does not discount utility of what's available to them on the internet.

We all know cash is practical. Cash has disadvantages and disadvantages. Some people will choose to dip into alternatives, some will not.

>Shared phones and computers... how practical

Sorry but sharing is third world survival 101... when resources are more dear expensive items often become shared so they can provide the most utility. Very practical.

> you overlooked the smartphone penetration

Can you cite your claims regarding smartphone penetration? You really didn't provide enough information for me to comment on. Internet and crypto access comes through many forms, so it's difficult for me to comment purely based on uncited figures regarding smartphones. You stated most people don't have smartphones, which I think is probably true, but difficult for me to comment on uncited.

[throwmeariver1]

Dude, you have so much time on your hand to write little essays without saying anything that you probably can google it yourself (hint it's not the first hit like the last link you posted you really have to scroll this time :P). I am over kicking your shitty arguments in trash because the only thing you do is repeat yourself and throw racism and sexism acquisitions around.

It's not feasible for the majority ( ;) ) of El Salvadorians to use crypto as a cash replacement because there is simply not enough digital infrastructure for it. Maybe your boy Elon will drop some Starlinks. lmao.

PS: I really hope you are just an edgy troll and that's not your real persona ;0)

[notch656a]

>It's not feasible for the majority ( ;) ) of El Salvadorians to use crypto as a cash replacement because there is simply not enough digital infrastructure for it

And now you've finally walked back far enough to simply say most won't use it as a cash replacement by majority at present. I think that's fair -- I've never said I expect bitcoin to completely replace cash. Cash is of course practical, and has its place.

I think you've been educated enough at this point we can stop here.