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by EarlKing 1509 days ago
> Why are you making this personal?

Why are you avoiding responsibility? You don't control the world. You only control yourself. Change the things you can change.

> That's a very cruel way to look at the situation, when many new adults have zero negotiating experience.

Almost no adults have any negotiating experience. That doesn't change anything. You're still responsible for your own actions. You will make mistakes. You will fail. You're still expected to get up and try again.

> Yes, they do. Not getting that education, as a child, is not a poor life choice!

...but refusing to seek it out as an adult is. I didn't have someone to teach me these things. I learned them the hard way like everyone else.

> It's not a high schooler's fault to not get a good education there, and it doesn't suddenly become your fault the day you turn 18.

Actually, yes, that's exactly what it means. As an adult you are responsible for your own condition. No one else owes you anything.

> You can expect someone to learn these things after some years in the workforce. Before that it's all the more important for society to keep things in line and prevent abuses.

...which isn't going to happen. OTOH, individuals can learn how to adapt to the way things are and make things better for themselves. I find it interesting that teaching people how to take advantage of the present system and better themselves is viewed as "making this personal" and somehow a bad thing, whereas complaining and accomplishing nothing is not.

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> I find it interesting that teaching people how to take advantage of the present system and better themselves is viewed as "making this personal" and somehow a bad thing, whereas complaining and accomplishing nothing is not.

Yeah I sometimes find stuff I completely imagined interesting too.

The 'making it personal' part was the part I quoted. You took a general comment about contracting relationships and turned it into a claim that pjerem specifically "made poor life choices and paid for them".

It wasn't about anything else you said.

> You will make mistakes. You will fail. You're still expected to get up and try again.

Ok true. Nobody said otherwise here. But are you implying it’s ok for companies to exploit this natural naivety ?

No, but I am saying that you have essentially no control over that, but you do have control over your own person. Focus on the thing you can control rather than wasting your time arguing about the things you can't.