[mxuribe]

So, at what point will there be a legitimate third option other than Google android phones (and associated ecosystem) and Apple iphones (and associatyed ecosystem)??? And, no, i don't mean rooting a phone, etc. to install Lineage or other alternative operating systems on it. I mean, i want to go out, buy a phone that is decent enough for the basics of what i need to do and is de-googled...not too crazy expensive like an iphone, and comes with legitimate support from a manufacturer. Its exhausting!

[fsflover]

Here you go: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 and https://pine64.org/pinephone.

[mxuribe]

Thanks! I am aware of both, but thought that they were still more for developers, and not ready for prime-time as daily drivers.

[fsflover]

It depends on what "daily driver" means for you. Some people do use them as daily drivers, but many things don't work well yet.

[mxuribe]

Fair point. I define daily driver as having a device that does not crash for light duty operation, allows for sending/receiving of phone calls, text/sms mesaaging, using a small number of heavy apps like Element (for matrix), email client, light web browsing, light use of maps, taking photos, listening to (mostly offline but a tiny bit of online) music.

[fsflover]

http://janvlug.org/blog/one-week-librem-5-field-trial-day-1/

[momirlan]

nokia 3220

[kevin_thibedeau]

With any new employer be sure to show up with just a featurephone so you can shoot down any brain dead attempt to force you to link your personal property to corporate authentication.

[mxuribe]

This is a great idea! :-)

[mxuribe]

I guess i did walk into that one! :-)