[newaccount74]

The problem is that Electron apps are slower today than native apps were 10 years ago, despite computers getting faster and available RAM on my machine quadrupling.

I understand why developers like Electron, but like everything it's a tradeoff.

[yywwbbn]

They are mainly slow only because the developers don’t care about performance not because of Electron

[happymellon]

They use Electron because they don't care about performance.

[ryandrake]

Exactly. This is a developer culture problem as much as it is a technology problem. Developers care less about runtime performance than other development factors, so they choose technologies that sacrifice runtime performance for developer speed and comfort. Is the root cause even deeper? Why are we so focused on developer productivity? Do individual developers really not care about performance, or is it that their companies are insisting that they poop out whatever crap they can in as little time as possible?

> > Electron apps are slower today than native apps were 10 years ago, despite computers getting faster and available RAM on my machine quadrupling.

Desktop software today seems to be slower than desktop software even 20 years ago, when RAM and hard disks not only had less capacity, but were also slower just as CPUs were slower. As an industry, we have sacrificed so much at the holy altar of Developer Productivity.

[happymellon]

> it that their companies are insisting that they poop out whatever crap they can in as little time as possible?

Very much this but management are not requesting Electron. They see that JavaScript developers are cheap and plentiful, and JavaScript devs want to use JavaScript, even if it isn't a desktop language.

[ohgodplsno]

If you don't think having to run _an entire chromium stack_ just to display something, actively bypassing all of the OS's rendering facilities to draw some stuff on a canvas, I have a bridge to sell you.