[travisgriggs]

> And that is in itself a dangerous moral and ethical lapse.

Agreed. Is it an original lapse, or derivative though? When researchers/engineers oversell their story to get the funding they wouldn't otherwise get, where is the collapse? With the engineers/researchers? Or with the forces that built a system where that was the only way forward for them?

When a hungry thief steals to eat, is the thief morally bankrupt? Or is those that engineered the shortage?

[savanaly]

Is it the ones who engineered the shortage, or the ones who engineered the system in which the ones who engineered the shortage operated when they were designing the other system?