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by myshpa 1510 days ago
The pressure is here from us doing bad things. We're killing the soil, bugs, forests, wildlife, sea, mainly by purchasing the wrong things in the supermarket. [1]

We could use just 25% of our current agriculture land and still feed the population. There is nothing in the beef & dairy, which we could not get from other sources (preferably plant-based).

The problem are agriculture subsidies. We're heavily subsidizing production of beef, mutton & dairy, which needs 75% of our agricultural lands, instead of focusing on less resource-intensive sources of protein & fats [2].

If enough people switched (and there are some positive indicators that it's already happening), maybe we could save the earth before it's too late [3].

[1] https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets [2] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-kcal-poore [3] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding...

The destruction of Earth & wildlife is horrendous. [4] [5] We

[4] https://xkcd.com/1338/ (compulsory) [5] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/21/human-ra...

"Humans and Big Ag Livestock Now Account for 96 Percent of Mammal Biomass ... a study ... found that, while humans account for 0.01 percent of the planet’s biomass, our activity has reduced the biomass of wild marine and terrestrial mammals by six times and the biomass of plant matter by half." [6]

100 years ago humans&cattle was just 2% of the biomass. Now it's 98%.

If all people on earth eat as much meat as an average american, we would need 5+ earths. If as much as average european, then 4+ earths would be needed. There is not enough space to support this lifestyle any longer, people. [6]

http://personal.psu.edu/afr3/blogs/siowfa12/2012/10/if-every...

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By learning to switch to plant-based diet we would be healthier, leaner, and we would be guardians of our blue not, not its destroyers.

1 comments

> ...mainly by purchasing the wrong things in the supermarket.

I doubt that blaming the consumer is helpful. Stuff like fat shaming usually backfires. And leads to us-vs-them polarization.

Plus, are consumers really to blame when choices are constrained by others?

Plus, it absolves the actual villains. No different than the industry funded rhetoric around plastic recycling and carbon footprint. As though Big Ag is only responding to consumer demand, and is other wise powerless to effect change.

We need to find more effective strategies for constructive policymaking. Blame and shame isn't working.

Our current food pyramid is the result of industrial policy choices. Perhaps we can make other choices. Perhaps by demanding a seat at the table.

> I doubt that blaming the consumer is helpful. Stuff like fat shaming usually backfires. And leads to us-vs-them polarization.

I'm not blaming the customer. I'm simply pointing out that we can do a lot for the meaningful change by "voting with our wallet".

[https://www.grocerygazette.co.uk/2022/01/25/43-of-brits-plan... - 43% of Brits plan to reduce meat consumption in 2022] [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58831636 - UK public now eating significantly less meat] [https://www.plantproteins.co/vegan-plant-based-diet-statisti... - As many as 6% of U.S. consumers say they are vegan — a 6x (500%) increase compared to just 1% in 2014.1]

> Plus, it absolves the actual villains. No different than the industry funded rhetoric around plastic recycling and carbon footprint. As though Big Ag is only responding to consumer demand, and is other wise powerless to effect change. > As though Big Ag is only responding to consumer demand, and is other wise powerless to effect change.

Plastic recycling is a ruse brought up by plastic manufacturers. It delayed meaningful action for decades.

The current situation with meat/dairy production is caused by BigAg lobying for subsidies, cementing its position with laws & institutions. They won't change on their own. They would like to seem like they do, but it's just a play we've already seen with cigatette manufactures, banks and oil/plastic producers. They are in it for the money. We need to remove that money.

I agree that we need to change the rules, but I've lost trust in our govermental systems long time ago.

> Our current food pyramid is the result of industrial policy choices. Perhaps we can make other choices. Perhaps by demanding a seat at the table.

Be the change you want to see in the world. If enough of us can change, the world will change.