[devwastaken]

Bootcamps supposedly used to be good, nowadays even the "best" have largely cashed out and don't care much for education. This is an expected result when the top employers put almost 0 funding into education, no feedback, complain, and outsource their work anyways.

[0des]

I've met 0 skilled workers who came from bootcamps and plopped down at a job, and I think it is disingenuous to assume this would be the case. Part of me thinks that immediate job skills isn't the goal, and I think pro bootcamp operators know this.

I wouldn't say they are without value or purpose though, a bootcamp is like take-your-friend-to-work-day where people who recognize they might have an interest can have a taste of what we actually do besides wearing hoodies and cashing checks. Sure every day life isn't all laptop stickers and free pizza, but a bootcamp puts your hands in the middle of our work skills, and you get at least some idea of what this trade entails.

When you reframe the 'bootcamp' and remove the expectation that someone is immediately employable after, what you're left with is a classifier to discern who'd warrant further effort, and who's better off checking out a different trade for their mid-life-change.

In my opinion, bootcamps are best for two types of people: new/young folks who may be interested in this field of work, and suits who want to understand more about what their cofounder counterparts are up to when the "please dont knock" sign is on the door.