[andrewflnr]

> database vendors might try just a little harder to tell the truth...

Come on, you know that's not what's going to happen. If they notice at all, they'll just incorporate the magic phrases into their BS so you have to hunt harder for a real signal.

[jolynch]

Oh shoot I forgot Shibboleths have to remain secret, I have made a terrible mistake.

[curious_cat_163]

Is there a ‘standard’ way to test the positive shibboleths for existence?

I am not necessarily thinking just tests running as code. Although that would be nice.

[andrewflnr]

I think it's basically pay Aphyr/Jepsen $mondoConsultingRates. :)

[cpitman]

I wonder how much it actually is. I push back hard on anyone trying to bring in a distributed database that has not had a report released by Jepsen, but I wish there was the funding and/or capacity to release updated reports more often.

[andrewflnr]

Indeed, you have doomed us all.

Less /s, I'd be more worried if I thought the salescritters were listening, but they're mostly not.