[r3856283]

> I went super minimal with it

> sometimes you just want them to solve the problem for you as fast and efficient as possible.

Your site displays a blank page without running javascript. You are a long way off from efficient or super minimal.

For all the hand wringing about google amp, one good thing they did was try to require that there be some main content which displays without any javascript.

[awhitty]

The page loads within 500ms for me without cache, fonts and all. It doesn't show animations, flashing content, mailing list modals, etc. Navigating between pages is near-instant. The site isn't collapsing under its own weight.

Compare the site to sf.funcheap.com which I unfortunately use to learn about things to do here in SF. Yes, it renders without JavaScript enabled, but the two pages take the same amount of time to load in my browser, and Funcheap still tries to load resources from two domains blocked by uBlock Origin even with JS disabled (15 with it enabled). Is that really any better? There are so many miserable experiences on the web, most made particularly maddening by poorly applying JavaScript in the hopes of driving conversions on some metric. This site ain't it though.

Sure, the first load could include the initial brush of content in its markup. In 2022, this is a trivial change to sprinkle onto a front-end.

[Kaze404]

> Your site displays a blank page without running javascript. You are a long way off from efficient or super minimal.

This seems like a non sequitur to me. What does javascript have to do with efficiency or minimalism?

[cercatrova]

Not running JS is both more efficient and more minimal than running JS, and so like the parent is saying, doing all that just to display a blank page without JS is kind of ironic.

[Kaze404]

Not running CSS and HTML is even more efficient. How can you call your website efficient if it isn’t just plain text served over TCP?

[cercatrova]

Yes, plain text would be even better. It's not a gotcha if I agree with your sarcastic comment unironically.

[OJFord]

> For all the hand wringing about google amp, one good thing they did was try to require that there be some main content which displays without any javascript.

That's absolutely not my experience? It needs googleusercontent.com scripts or something? I get blank pages from amp stuff, and 'de-amp' it for it to load.