[ljp_206]

A "strongly implied message," whether it's truly there or not, does not "clear cut hypocrisy" make. This reminds me of a similar meme in recent/current cultural memory: 'Anti-woke' types love to claim that "Black Lives Matter" means or strongly implies that 'all lives' do not. There are many discussions about why this simply isn't the case.

To some, though, it may very well be true. But that's an issue with today's slogan- and owning-the-other-side- based discourse. For what it's worth, I agree with you that merits alone should make the hiring decision.

As someone you'd probably label "woke," I think we should also acknowledge that it is entirely possible and common that inherent bias makes that difficult for white people in hiring positions. Yes, that can happen with ageism as well.

[georgia_peach]

It is a blatant contradiction. "We don't discriminate," directly followed by discrimination against men, whites, asians, and the old. But since it's 2022 now, still advocating for strict meritocracy means I'm a nazi. I never thought it would happen so accidentally!

[issa]

Whenever people post messages like this I am genuinely curious to hear what their solutions to an unjust system are. If a society is unequal, then a "strict meritocracy" means it will stay that way essentially forever, right? So how would you solve current inequality?

[georgia_peach]

"unjust system" is mere opinion. In my short time on this earth, I've seen broke immigrants who barely know english reach the heights, and I've seen the children of doctors & lawyers (upon whom no expense was spared) hit rock-bottom.

Every choice we make is like compound interest. Make choices that are 1% better, and over time, the cream will rise to the top. Make choices that are 1% worse, end up on Maury or Springer.

And this "social justice," this putting of fingers upon the scales, is a kangaroo court. Of all the effort that has been expended to get more minorities & women into software, how much effort has been spent to get more asians into the NFL & NBA? It is no justice. It is that there are more black & women voters than there are asian ones. It is the mob voting itself a benefit.

[issa]

Are you aware that there were laws specifically targeting black people and women for hundreds of years in this country? Do you believe the fix for that is to simply not address it in any meaningful way? If not, what do you suggest?

[georgia_peach]

The Jews were also targeted. It didn't stop them.

I don't see how what happened to my granddaddy, for good or for ill, has any bearing on my ability to practice, practice, practice, get good, and make it. As of 2015-16, NBA was 81.7% black.

Software is no different. The best tools are free. Internet is near-ubiquitous. A serviceable machine can be had for lawn-mowing money. There is no excuse.

[pessimizer]

> The Jews were also targeted. It didn't stop them.

No, it stopped millions of them.