[mytailorisrich]

I grew in Southern Europe (around 30C every day in summer, more in full sun) when no-one had aircon at home and no-one had aircon in cars.

It's hot, you live with it. I'm sure it's worse on the other side of the Med.

It's one of the reasons the traditional 'siesta' exists and towns and villages are virtually dead until 5pm.

The issue I have with aircon is that it makes people ignore the local climate and, worse, actively fight it, which requires even more aircon.

[drieddust]

Staying indoor in 24C air-conditioned spaces conditions the body so badly that even 28C starts to feel bad. I noticed this in my own behaviour and thought of changing it last month. For a change, I decided to drive without air conditioning. It felt bad for a few minutes, then it gets better and when I come back to a cooler place it feels like heaven.

Exposing yourself to the elements is greatly rewarding.

[ricardobayes]

That's actually true. I had a car with A/C in southern europe which I traded in for one that doesn't have one (don't ask how). The first month was brutal but this year it's been already 30C+ and I don't even feel it.

[mytailorisrich]

People used to keep all windows open to get the cooling airflow. Now they keep all windows closed with aircon on.

[anthk]

30c in Castilles and Madrid is nothing. Siesta for that it's ridiculous. No one does that. What we do it's to have lunch. Siesta it's for days bordering 40 and up. Also, beware of the stereotypes. You will freeze up in 3/4 of Spain if you dare to get out in shorts and flipflops on Winter as many tourists do.

[ianai]

30c isn’t a point of reference for hot temperature.

[dgellow]

> It's hot, you live with it.

For the average person, yes. But old and vulnerable people do die from it.