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by sph 1518 days ago
This is the second day in a row where a post about Go _from the same blog_ has been posted. I think that's enough, especially since it's mostly a knee jerk reaction from that very HN post from yesterday.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31191700

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> This is the second day in a row where a post about Go _from the same blog_ has been posted.

Unless you consider this post either spam or off topic (and I personally don't believe it falls into either category), then flagging the post is not in keeping with my understanding of the site guidelines.

Just don't upvote it.

This post is (sort-of) a response to yesterday's discussion. I think it's fair to post it today.
No sort-of about it. The author directly quotes from yesterday's HN discussion. It's a continuation of the dialogue.
The article is over two years old and posted by random people regularly.

The timing is a coincidence.

The author is active on HN, he was active on yesterday's thread. Shall we post tomorrow's response as well?
Anyone can post it if they want to. If it gets enough upvotes it will be on the front page for a while, just like this one...
And users are free to flag if they deem the content spammy.
Yes, exactly, although I personally don't see how a substantive post, responding to a well-discussed issue from the previous day, could possibly qualify as "spam". I guess others agree, since the post did not remain flagged.
And others are free to disagree with your opinion. I read the content as lacking maturity, emotionally loaded and not the kind of content that fosters productive conversation in HN (as can be evidenced by the caliber of most comments in this thread).

The post is not explicitly flagged but nowhere to be seen in HN first pages. Take that as a hint.

Who cares if it is a legitimate criticism and makes unique points in both cases (also, they were both written two years apart!)? Some call it "inflammatory" but it has scientific and critical value nonetheless.
> Who cares if it is a legitimate criticism and makes unique points in both cases?

Clearly, the people flagging it care, whether because they disagree with your assessment of it providing legitimate criticism and unique points in both cases, or because they think some other quality it has outweighs that in assessing it against the bar for belonging on HN.

> Some call it "inflammatory" but it has scientific and critical value nonetheless.

Value is subjective and people clearly disagree with you on this point.

If you find it does not have value to you, don't upvote it and ignore it. Don't flag it to try to hide it from people who it may have value for. It's clearly not spam, so it's not your job to determine whether it has value for other people.
Flagging posts that would not fit on HN or would just cause pointless flamewars is acceptable. Given the state of this thread, I think it's even more justified.

"Users [flag] post as breaking the guidelines or otherwise not belonging on HN."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

I've seen far more inflammatory commentary/criticism in the tech community over the years. This post is honestly pretty mild if you look at it objectively.

The fact that a small subset of the Go community is triggered by this post and can't behave in a civil manner isn't a reason to flag it.

> I've seen far more inflammatory commentary/criticism in the tech community over the years.

That it isn't the most inflammatory commentary (even if one agrees with that, which is, of course, subjective) in the tech community doesn't mean that people assess that it “gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.” The latter, not the former, is the criteria for being on-topic at HN.

Naturally, people will disagree with what is within and outside of this boundary, and use flags or not accordingly.

Can we do without the finger pointing as well? I am not part of the Go community, and I would prefer not seeing any reaction posts and divisive opinion pieces on this forum, whatever the language or topic.

Honestly I just hope @dang nukes this thread from orbit, and maybe it'll be posted again and get a cooler reaction from everybody.

> cause pointless flamewars

So the worse the (Go) community behaves, the more careful authors have to be?

What makes a reaction knee jerk? Is it just not liking it?