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by SubuSS 1518 days ago
What if the facts or basic-ness of them are disputed?

You can see this clearly in pro-choice/life debate for example.

One side is saying it is murder and the other side is saying everything from it is not a murder to society doesn’t support the born kids, so this should be allowed.

What are the ‘basic facts’ here?

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The side that believes it is murder also trusts the bible, just point them to the ordeal of the bitter water: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordeal_of_the_bitter_water

Though hopefully they won't get ideas to make it involuntary again.

What ends up happening in that case is that people disagree in defining "What is a human?". That's not about facts, it's about values and conclusions. That becomes uncomfortable very quickly, because we've seen what happens when a society excludes some people from their definition of humanity.