[jamieb]

To which I would have asked "compete against who?" And you would have said "china etc" and I would have said, "Who the fuck do you think let these cheap chinese goods in here in the first place"?

You would have then started talking about how economists have proved that international trade is good for jobs.

To which I would have replied that americans leading economist said that in 2005 we should all be using ARMs to buy houses.

You believe the bullshit. I don't.

You get upset when people type characters like 'f' 'u' 'c' and 'k' in sequence.

I get upset when people justify a government-economic-hierarchy that kills fucking children with bombs because of oil and tell us "we're better off for it".

Yes it is pointless trying to argue with me. Enjoy your flat earth. I must be the crazy one.

[ericd]

No, not China, that's recent history. We sell our electronics, software, and services to the world. That's competition.

Go to a bar and tell a few people you don't know "Frankly, fuck you" and see if they get annoyed with you.

You're conflating lots of of only slightly related things. I don't remember any economists saying that taking an ARM was a good idea.

I agree that the current state of the govt. is more than a little messed up and outrage is overdue, but you're doing the cause a disservice by talking about the wrong things and generally sounding like a conspiracy theorist. Public-only campaign financing is a good thing to talk about. Talking about how crash testing for cars is used to keep the good guys down is going to get you ridiculed by the opposition, and whatever movement you're associated with will be ridiculed by association.