[lbj]

In Denmark at least, through all of 2020 we had 0.0% increase in mortality. 2 weeks after we started vaccinating that number climbed to 12.6%, so we might find that the vaccines have killed even more people.

Certainly if you did the deceptive deed of tracking "dead with vaccine" like we do for the disease.

[nicoburns]

> Certainly if you did the deceptive deed of tracking "dead with vaccine" like we do for the disease.

Where are they not tracking "dead with covid" separately from "dead from covid"? Here in the UK we have very clearly recorded separate numbers for these (the "dead from" number were ~66% the "dead with" numbers until recently with the rise of Omicron meaning that far more people have covid and far few people are dying from it).

[lbj]

In Denmark we have only tracked "dead with" and then mid 2021 we had a large study to figure out the actual number of dead, which turned out to be about 120 people.

[AlphaOne1]

Do you have a citation for this? Very interesting and would like to look into this more.

[Narkov]

Correlation != causation.