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by inferiorhuman 1519 days ago
> this type of failure mode of the air france crash wouldn’t have happened in a boeing airplane; the pilots would have realized what was going on within seconds.

Say what? Atlas Air face planted a 767 with pilots doing just that:

> The captain’s and the FO’s opposing elevator control

> forces continued for about 10 seconds, during which the

> airplane’s dive continued to steepen. Thus, the NTSB

> concludes that the captain’s failure to command a positive

> transfer of control of the airplane as soon as he attempted

> to intervene on the controls enabled the FO to continue to

> force the airplane into a steepening dive.

Or the Air France thing that's now on the front page. In a Boeing 777.

Poor training is poor training. Physical feedback is not a safety benefit. It sounds nice in theory but in practice doesn't do much. You can easily say the same thing about A vs B thrust levers, look at that Sriwijaya Air crash. The Boeing design sounds more intuitive until you look at crashes where the feedback didn't do a single thing to help the pilots or avoid a crash.