[chrischen]

Then don't get the dongle. Just upgrade your accessory to use USB type C. Having a bulky USB A port just to appease the 1% of users who spend $2000 on a shiny new macbook but cheap out on a mouse they've been using from the 90s? I exaggerate, but if you really want to keep your old accessories then leave the dongle permanently attached to the accessory. You can get like a 10 pack for like $5 probably.

[bee_rider]

It isn't really a matter of cost, so much as the inconvenience of replacing all the peripherals I've accumulated over time (ignoring the fact that there isn't even a USB-C version of my favorite keyboard).

Yes adapters are possible, however an even better solution (in that it doesn't require remembering to bring an adapter everywhere) is just to buy a different brand of laptop.

[obscuren]

Just buy a couple of these [1] (can probably find them cheaper even) and leave them attached to the peripheral (not your Mac)

- [1] https://satechi.net/products/aluminum-usb-c-to-usb-a-adapter...

[bee_rider]

It is clearly possible to find workaround, but it seems weird to need one on a $2000 laptop when other companies manage to fit it on cheaper, thinner laptops.

[chrischen]

Your requirement of a USB Aport to satisfy an esoteric accessory is a niche use case. They are not going to include A USB A just like why they won’t add a firewire port to satisfy that 1%.

Pretty much all new keyboards, even niche ones, now come with Type C standard. Plus you are making a huge deal out of the graceful degradation of attaching an adapter to your keyboard. If we’re going to permanently retrofit something its going to be your keyboard—not the macbook.

I upgrade my gear regularly. And because of that I pretty much never use USB A. Apple designs their products for people who upgrade their gear. If they add a USB A to my shiny new laptop it’d be quite annoying because it is 1 extra port that I will never use that is probably there at the expense of another Type C port.

[bee_rider]

I think we might just be posting from different universes or something. Where I'm at USB-A is not really a niche interface. I don't know what to tell you.

[chrischen]

If you upgrade the minor peripherals to the newest versions you’ll find USB A is not really used anymore.

[macintux]

How many peripherals do you take with you when you leave the house?

I've found a single, compact USB-C hub does fine for me, but of course YMMV.

[bee_rider]

I mean it is unusual situations. And, I like my USB-C ports! But it isn't a mutually exclusive thing.

For example, I work at a university, in an office. If my laptop lacked the normal USB port, I'd probably have an adapter or hub in my backpack or at my desk. But if I'm in a rush to a meeting, I might just grab my laptop and not my backpack. So, if somebody needs to share a file using a bog standard USB drive, I'm out of luck.

I'm capable of adapting around this and it isn't a huge hassle really, but... my current laptop is cheaper than a... any Macbook, I think, and thinner than a Macbook pro, and still ASUS managed to fit in a USB-A (and even a legacy HDMI!) port. I dunno. It is ASUS, I don't think they've got any wild engineering talent that would blow Apple's mind... it just doesn't seem very hard.

[goosedragons]

Find a new wired mouse with a USB C connector. USB A isn't dead just yet. Also doesn't really help in the scenario where maybe you need to grab files off a client or colleague's flash drive...

[bombcar]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/keyb...

They’re out there.

Would a USB A be nice? Probably.

[goosedragons]

They're out there but not commonplace. Walk into a Staples or Best Buy and they're either USB A corded or USB A wireless dongles with a dash of Bluetooth.

[threeseed]

That's because no one even makes them anymore e.g. Logitech has ZERO normal wired mice.

So of course you're seeing USB-A mice because they are probably old models from the 2000s.

[tzs]

> That's because no one even makes them anymore e.g. Logitech has ZERO normal wired mice

They have two USB-A mice and one mouse that has USB-C, Bluetooth, and their own wireless interface. Depending on what you mean by "normal" that is either 3 or 2 normal wired mice.

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice.html?filters=co...

[goosedragons]

I mean Razer released a new wired Deathadder in 2020 with USB A. All of Logitechs non-Bluetooth wireless mice come with receivers that use USB A. Logitech doesn't even sell a USB C wireless receiver yet as an option, just an adapter.