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by jedimind 1512 days ago
"it is the only known solution to the Byzantine Generals problem that doesn't involve a centralized authority"

Did you skip that one on purpose? How do non-blockchain technologies solve the the Byzantine General's problem without relying on a (corrupt) central authority? Address this before you make more demands.

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How does blockchain solve the Byzantine General's problem without relying on a (corrupt) central authority?

Math or not, police & courts overrule them.

Actually, blockchain isn't even mathematically a solution to BGP, is it? You need to define your actors better, here.

A 51% attack means communication can be denied. And there's still the question of how does A know that B has seen that A has seen, that B has seen…

Am I missing something?

The fact that communication happens on the blockchain doesn't mean it's not communication.

I just read a couple of articles about blockchain and BGP, and I think they all misunderstood what BGP is.

I'm A, and see that B is "committed on the blockchain to attack, assuming A is too". I can then add my block that says "I see B commits to attack. I agree let's both do this. I'll attack if you attack".

Ok. So now B sees that. Do they attack?

If you think the answer here is clear, then you've misunderstood BGP.

Good attempt at a deflection, I won't casually solve the very thing that is a great example of blockchain being a solution looking for a problem.

But, given the 'real world' context I tried to stress, do you think blockchain is a good solution to the variations of that problem in real world contexts?

You think that you're onto something but your rhetoric and arguments honestly make me cringe.

People are increasingly aware that governments/authorities do not deserve the trust that they have been given + the opaque nature of the system only allows authorities to abuse their power. Thus the technology you love to hate so much does in fact serve "real world" problems and is more trusted, so much so that Ethereum for instance processes 4.5x more transactions than Visa [0].

There are many more arguments how this technology delivers real value to real people NOW, but I have no interest in entertaining more of this kind of bad faith discussions. The better technology will survive and eventually dominate, with or without you.

[0]: https://www.investing.com/news/cryptocurrency-news/ethereum-...

I don't hate blockchain - the technology - it's really interesting.

Something I dislike though is that so many conversations that enquire roughly 'why not use a more traditional technology' end up with rant about not trusting governments - that is 'cringe'.