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by wnevets 1519 days ago
If Snowden's and Greenwald's twitter accounts during the lead up (and since) to Russia's invasion of Ukraine hasn't answered that question for you, what proof could possibly exist that would convince you that they're puppets for Putin?
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> puppets for Putin

For non-Americans who don't know, accusing someone who wants something you don't of being a puppet for the Kremlin has been a popular activity for the past century?

Support the fourth amendment to the US constitution? Puppet for the Kremlin.

Don't want to get into a nuclear arms race? Puppet for the Kremlin.

Support the civil rights movement? Puppet for the Kremlin.

Don't want to pick up France's colonial subjugations in Indochina? Puppet for the Kremlin.

And so on. The social security act of 1935 was called a Russian plot. Those who wanted to wind down involvement in WWI a few months into US involvement were called Bolshevik supporters.

I'm not even sure what 'puppets for Putin' means? Or puppets for anything would really mean.

Are they having zoom chats with Putin, and he's telling them what to tweet/say, and then they are doing exactly as he directs? Or is there a different arrangement?

I'm assuming that being critical of the US military & security complex is your evidence of being a puppet for Putin? Since Putin also is critical of the US military & security complex, therefore criticizing the US = puppeting for Putin?

If I have this wrong, please do correct me.

> Are they having zoom chats with Putin, and he's telling them what to tweet/say, and then they are doing exactly as he directs?

would that be enough to convince you?

Yes, that would be, as that would align with my fuzzy idea of someone being a 'puppet' for someone else.

To repeat my question one last time of how you determine the 'Putin puppetness' of someone:

> I'm assuming that being critical of the US military & security complex is your evidence of being a puppet for Putin? Since Putin also is critical of the US military & security complex, therefore criticizing the US = puppeting for Putin?

If I have this wrong, please do correct me.