[bethecloud]

The "amount of human lives cost" is also not a real thing, because we have an incomplete picture of elasticity for market substitutes for energy demand (which is nearly all goods, because they all require energy)

Point is - using your dryer does not actually cause human suffering. This is a simply a utilitarian argument with an incomplete picture, the structure of which is often utilized to promote atrocities like communism, genocide, etc.

[jtolds]

Your dryer does actually cause some real portion of attributable human suffering. It's easy to armchair discuss this, but have a look at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24487-w