[PragmaticPulp]

I was on the other side of this: We had a remote worker who got a new job but then tried to hide it, collecting paychecks as long as possible.

For any manager paying attention, it wasn't difficult to spot. He would swing between being eager to please and virtually unreachable. We didn't have many meetings or phone calls, but he had more scheduling conflicts than anyone else. On the rare occasion that we had high urgency tasks, there was about a 50% chance that he would obviously be not working on it at all until the evening, despite being online all day.

Eventually we let him go for non-performance, which wasn't too hard to document. Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume. He also burned the entire team (they figured it out) so he's not getting any positive references from anyway.

It may work if you can find two jobs with two incompetent managers who aren't paying attention, but I don't think it's as easy as people suggest for any reasonably well paying engineering job.

[nscalf]

It's not a problem, he's just going to lie about ever having a second job and only report his first job. That's how this works, you have a primary job which is your "real job", and others which feed you more paychecks until they realize you're underperforming and you get fired.

FWIW I'm not doing this, I'm just on the /r/overemployed subreddit.

[giraffe_lady]

> He would swing between being eager to please and virtually unreachable. We didn't have many meetings or phone calls, but he had more scheduling conflicts than anyone else. On the rare occasion that we had high urgency tasks, there was about a 50% chance that he would obviously be not working on it at all until the evening, despite being online all day.

I think a few periods in my career could be accurately described like this. It was actually just a flareup of some severe mental illness but you can (and my employers certainly did) fire for it anyway, obviously. But I'm not sure your confidence in your understanding of the situation is truly warranted here.

[justsomehnguy]

> Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume

As a non-US person this is the most ridiculous reason to inherent anything.

[BeFlatXIII]

> Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume. He also burned the entire team (they figured it out) so he's not getting any positive references from anyway.

Or he only lists the J2 from which he hasn't been fired.

[b20000]

so why didn’t you pay him more so he would not need to juggle jobs?

[strikelaserclaw]

Why do you think this is the case? Some people can never get enough, i know some people who complain so much that you'd think they were living in the streets but their household income exceeds 500k, it is just a mentality thing.

[b20000]

you don't know what financial challenges they are facing, so there is no point in arguing that 500K is enough for their household.

[s1artibartfast]

If 500k/yr isn't enough to meet your household needs, you don't have a financial problem, you have a personal problem.

[b20000]

like I said, none of your business

[s1artibartfast]

Totally agree unless they want to complain about it to me. If a peer or employee tried to sell me a sob story about 500k not being enough I would tell them to hit the road

[setr]

As a company, if their financial troubles exceed 500k, why is that my problem?

Especially if I can get an equivalent resource without the excessive financial troubles for 200k that isn't moonlighting?

just because you want money doesn't mean you get money

[s1artibartfast]

As long as you can fire them and find a replacement for the same price, why would you ever increase pay? Especially for a worker that is underperforming?

[b20000]

more power to you if you can as easily replace people as you describe.

[isbvhodnvemrwvn]

It doesn't take much to replace a dead weight.

[brianmcc]

"You're massively underperforming and we can never contact you - have a substantial pay rise" isn't really how these things work...