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by lyaa 1513 days ago
As far as I know, in the US, the custody and house/apartment is almost always given to the parent who /wants/ the children. Men often don't fight for custody. They should.

Also, the division of assets is not out of proportion I think. If I got married and my partner left the workforce to take care of the home/children, I do think they should get their fair share of assets in case of divorce.
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onlyrealcuzzo 1513 days ago
> Men often don't fight for custody.

In the cases where both do, majority custody is almost always given to the wife.

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SamoyedFurFluff 1513 days ago
Do you have a study for this? When I researched it briefly years ago it seems when men ask for custody they often get exactly the custody they ask for, and the narrative they don’t is something largely spread by people who are either ignorant or men who were denied custody for heinous examples of abuse. Men simply ask for custody less or ask for less custody broadly.
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onlyrealcuzzo 1513 days ago
https://scholarship.law.stjohns.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?arti...

> noting that nearly 30% of fathers surveyed did not want physical custody

> The outcome matched the re-quest for maternal custody in nearly 90% of such cases. See id. In contrast, paternal physical custody was awarded in only 75%

> in a 1992 study of 1,124 divorced families, 67.6% of children lived with their mothers; 15% lived with both parents on a joint custody basis; and only 9.5% lived with their fathers

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Jiro 1513 days ago
This fails to correct for how many fathers won't even ask for custody because there's such a low chance of getting it.

If it was the 19th century and I observed that most women who took the bar exam passed the bar exam, would that prove that men and women were on an equal footing?

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dragonwriter 1513 days ago
> If it was the 19th century and I observed that most women who took the bar exam passed the bar exam, would that prove that men and women were on an equal footing?

It would require other evidence (of which there is plenty, for the 19th century legal training pipeline, including explicit institutional discrimination) to show the bias.

But other evidence isn't just an unsupported narrative.

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SamoyedFurFluff 1513 days ago
This was published well over 20 years ago. Do you have anything more reflective of modern days? Taking it at face value, assuming nothing has changed (a big assumption) it’s still the case that the vast majority of men who ask for custody are awarded custody.
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onlyrealcuzzo 1513 days ago
I'm not sure how you possibly reached that conclusion.

~30% of men don't want ANY custody. Yet ~67% of children live only with their mother.

Assuming that 100% of children that the father didn't want go to the mother (they don't - some go to the system or relatives) - that means in 47% of the other cases, the mother gets FULL custody.

So this means for 100% of those 47% of cases, the father did not want the mother to get FULL custody, but that's what the court decided.

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Dma54rhs 1512 days ago
The laws and the system against that are openly and publicly against men, its not exactly a secret.
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