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by Andrew_nenakhov 1524 days ago
Unless your XMPP client is a human, XML in your XMPP connection is meant to be read by a computer.

I work with XMPP for many years and approximately zero problems we face would be solved by switching to JSON or whatever.

This "JSON is better than XML" is a modern version of old religious debates like Gnome vs KDE, Pascal vs C, Christianity vs Islam.
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hot_gril 1523 days ago
Only if you switch to JSON the way they describe in the joke XEP https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0295.html where they force XML into JSON form instead of properly redesigning the messages.

I think most people agree that XMPP messages are hard to read during debugging, and this is somehow not a problem in any of the JSON-based protocols.

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Andrew_nenakhov 1523 days ago
No. Please, stop it.

XML is not a problem. Parsing it is not a problem. Reading it is not a problem, too. None of the problems ever faced by us in the development of XMPP software would have been solved if it was switched from XML to JSON, nor made even a slightly easier to solve.

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wusspuss 1509 days ago
Literally half the OP article along with half the comments here explain how XML is a problem, how it is not equivalent to any other serialization format, etc. IMO the funniest example is stanza ids. That problem wouldn't exist even if they just used said XML in a remotely sane manner. But they really wanted to go all in on it. It's the XML mindset, the need to complicate things.
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