[eternityforest]

I call it a "pseudostandard". When you need extensions to use it at all, and half the clients are missing just enough of them to be useless for half the users.

Plus it's confusing. You have to look through feature matrices instead of just saying "Oh this is version 4, it has everything I need".

[hot_gril]

In my experience, XMPP has rarely "just worked." Always had to find the right client for the server I was using, or at least mess a lot with the settings. It could've benefitted from being more opinionated.

[zaik]

> "Oh this is version 4, it has everything I need"

You probably have not yet written any JavaScript or CSS if you think that's how things work.

[eternityforest]

JavaScript is very much a pseudostandard these days.

Most of the new stuff is invented by Google and rejected by Mozilla and Apple.

If you are in an intranet environment where you only ever target Chrome and Chrome Mobile and pretend the rest don't exist, it kinda does work like that.

[IYasha]

> Most of the new stuff is invented by Google ...to gain even more control over what's left of the Internet. Yeah, everytime I get "your browser is not supported" after loading a shitton of CSS+JS (literally megabytes), I remember Google and their cronies like framework writers and careless site developers. Just because Google added new CSS keyword doesn't mean everyone should drop old ways of doing things.