[coward-guy]

After the meeting in Istanbul, everyone in Russia and Ukraine had hope for an early peace (even the stock market speaks about it), the next day Ukrainian air forces attacked Russia (Belgorod) for the first time. This is was a clear sign, that UK and US has no goal to complete this was as soon as possible. The real goal is to get stuck Russia in this swamp for as long as possible. The model of Soviet-Afghan war.

My motives are not pro-Kremlin, but indeed I live in Russia and consume pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainian propaganda. However, I can also read popular Ukrainian Telegram channels (> 1 mln.) and I see the mockery of corpses of Russian soldiers in every second video. Ukrainians are happy to savor photos of disfigured bodies. I quite often see videos of Ukrainian women and men with bare bottoms tied to poles because they are supposedly looters, and if there are such videos, then it's scary to imagine how many did not get on the video.

I see how the Ukrainian government contributes to the process of dehumanization of Ukrainian people. And I know why this is being done.

[jhgb]

> After the meeting in Istanbul, everyone in Russia and Ukraine had hope for an early peace (even the stock market speaks about it), the next day Ukrainian air forces attacked Russia (Belgorod) for the first time.

Oh no! Now Russia will have to invade them! Oh, wait...

[EB-Barrington]

"the Ukrainian government contributes to the process of dehumanization of Ukrainian people."

Given the murders and rapes your countrymen are doing non-stop, this is a purely sick thing to say. I'm glad it's here for all to see - it's a worryingly common Russian attitude, that somehow the Ukrainian government are the dehumanisers, the "Nazi's"...

...and the poor Russians soldiers are the victims.

[coward-guy]

Did I say that Russian soldiers are the victims? No. I know they killed civilians. I know that many of them are looters.

I strongly against this war. I want it to stop it right now.

The purpose of my message is to show that most people only read pro-Ukraine propaganda and they don't want to figure out what were the reasons for this war.

They don't want to know that the National Guard of Ukraine has a real neo-nazi battalion, which in 2019, 40 US senators recognized as terrorist. Most people don't want to know that there was a war in the east of Ukraine for 8 years and now it's final stage. They don't want to think about Odessa massacre in 2014 when pro-Ukranian activists burned their opponents alive. Air attack on Luhansk in 2014?

I understand that it is easier to construct a chain of thoughts where the Russians are to blame for everything. But not everything is so unipolar. I recommend to watch George Friedman's talk, a man who can hardly be called pro-Russian, but who predicted this conflict: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc

[EB-Barrington]

More Kremlin talking points from the account created when the war began. No surprise.

Russians invaded Ukraine, and are raping and murdering civilians - not one or two, countless. Rapes. Executions. Beatings. Murder. Theft. Destruction. Deciding which country is to blame for these barbaric atrocities is very easy for most people.

Russian people will be paying for this for a very, very, long time.

[coward-guy]

It's quite simple - cancel culture. From both sides. I am afraid to write under my main account, as it will be easy to track me down and I may have problems because of my position in Russia and rest of the world.