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by des1nderlase 1526 days ago
To give a hypothetical analogy, let's say Mexicans in California are fed up with limited opportunity and low paying jobs, and various groups form, advocating separation from the US, to get better rights. Given their majority, they would win on any regional referendum, so officials avoid this topic altogether, extremely ignoring to acknowledge problem. At the same time Mexico start funding proxy-conflict by sending arms to now more extreme groups fighting for the "right cause". However those groups actually care more about controlling local territory. Due to local crime rise, non-mexican population start moving out. Now officials have to react by sending police/military troops to arrest/disarm any Mexican, getting into racial conflict. Some Policemen get killed and many more Mexicans (civilians), so the conflict escalates. Mexico starts firing long range missiles to military targets, but also some civilians get killed. Also extreme groups start killing each other over territory disputes, and in the aftermath stage it to blame official police/military...

Now Martians come to Earth and want to do the "right thing", who should they help? If they have long term dependency on the rocket parts from SpaceX, of course on the US side.

That's the paradox of modern conflict.

First, there are no only two sides, there are various groups, proxy-war founders, global and local forces...

Secondly, depending how far you look in the past, you can construct a pro-narrative for any side.

Even hypothetically knowing all true facts and events, the one "picks" the side within their own biases, let alone when there is propaganda distortion field.

This has happen so many times. How come general wisdom hasn't figured out the pattern yet. Kosovo, Syria,... and now Ukraine all have blueprints of this story, escalations going back and forth for years before the official conflict started... Ie, the west reported forming White Supremacy groups in Ukraine as far back as 2014, but I can only imagine what was the rationale for that...