[oh_sigh]

Because almost all people have more wall warts and cables than phones.

Would it make you happier if there was a boxed version without a wall wart, and a boxed version with a wall wart for $20 more?

Or you could just buy a $20 wall wart and cable...

[tidbits]

"Because almost all people have more wall warts and cables than phones." Do you have a source to verify this claim? Anecdotally, I know 3 people that switched from old Androids to iPhones who could not charge their phones. You're on a tech forum, so I assume you keep up with the tech news. But, at least in my circle, most people don't. They buy phones and expect them to ship with the required accessories to operate them.

[googlryas]

They should try reading the website then. Go try to purchase an iphone 13 and it clearly tells you "what's in the box" during the order flow, and then directly beneath it it says:

> As part of our efforts to reach our environmental goals, iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 mini do not include a power adapter or EarPods. Included in the box is a USB‑C to Lightning Cable that supports fast charging and is compatible with USB‑C power adapters and computer ports.

> We encourage you to re‑use your current power adapters and headphones that are compatible with these iPhone models. But if you need any new Apple power adapters or headphones, they are available for purchase.

And in the box is a USB-C to lightning adapter, so if they have a USB-C charger they can just use that. I'm guessing you said "old Androids" to imply that they are so old they're using micro usb, right?

[rootusrootus]

Do Android phones not charge with USB cables these days? Those chargers should be compatible with the USB cable that ships with an iPhone.

[adoxyz]

How about dropping the price $20 if it's not included...

Apple removed something that was and has been standard for over a decade and kept the price tag. If they're really doing it fOr ThE enVirONmeNt, shouldn't they also drop the price accordingly?

[oh_sigh]

...no? How does paying $1000 or $980 affect the environment?

And they didn't "keep the price tag", because they're selling a completely different product than they were a decade ago. And regardless, they're allowed to set the price as whatever they want, for whatever reason.

I feel like complaints about this is just a psych study in loss aversion.

[adoxyz]

How does paying $1020 as opposed to $1000 affect the environment?

If you bought any other product and couldn't use it without buying additional accessories, you'd be pretty peeved. Should Sony remove the power cable from the PS5 since your PS4 power cable works and charge you an extra $20 for it?

[oh_sigh]

How many people have a multiple unused PS4 power cables laying around their house? Is it like 90+% of PS5 buyers?

[PascLeRasc]

How do you know that they didn't drop the price?