| > Your disdain for conservatives is palpable, and that is your business This is ridiculous; the reason I defended myself, is because _I think of myself as a conservative_. But this doesn't free one from having to justify oneself; rather the opposite, and I very much understand that. > For the last time, that is _not_ the argument presented. Okey , so what is the argument presented? Why is this creating destabilization? I only see two arguments in the entire conversation: * Moving the subs "weakens the British defense posture". Why? Because it weakens it. I guess I should apparently read this again and again until I understand it. * Change "for the sake of sticking it to the opposition and for the benefit of one's adversaries" is bad. Yet this is both a strawman and at the same time begging the question. First, you have not justified why this is done only to "stick it to the opposition", there are valid arguments for (some of them presented above) and against which you are not even entertaining, just discarding. Second, "for the benefit of adversaries" is _your conclusion_, not a premise, not an argument. With this type of reasoning, it doesn't matter how many times you ask for people to re-read your comment; we are just going on in circles here. > It is not difficult to understand how an external player could exploit these "cut off one's nose to spite one's face" feelings to get people to act irrationally. Or to _prevent_ people from taking the rational course of action out of FUD. |