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by bloak 1522 days ago
I'm not suggesting you'd want to do this, but (theoretical question) is it still possible for the new owner of a domain to get web.archive.org to delete the archived data from that domain, the data created by a previous owner?

I remember reading complaints about that happening. Here's a ten-year-old discussion, for example:

https://archive.org/post/423432/domainsponsorcom-erasing-pri...

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I'm not sure why this is getting voted down. It seems relevant to me that archive.org used to believe, and perhaps still does believe, that the archived history of a domain should be under the control of the current owner of the domain.

An alternative might be to delete history only when someone fills in a form claiming to own some copyright. BUT ... what about the situation in which your web server is temporarily taken over by a hacker and the hacked contents gets archived before you can restore the web site? In that situation it would perhaps seem reasonable for the owner of the domain to get the bogus content removed from the archive even without owning any copyright.

Wow, that sounds like a horrible idea. It's like the new owner of an ISBN demanding libraries to burn the book previously sold under that ISBN.
Wait, do you mean an ISBN can be re-used and is not a unique identifier of a very specific book?
According to the site [0] it can not be re-used.

[0] http://www.isbn.org/faqs_general_questions

And yes... this is the official agency for ISBN in the US; the International ISBN page only looks a little less scammy: https://www.isbn-international.org/. Maybe they care more about analog media than digital...

This is not exactly what the page says. It says nothing about them be free to give the same ISBN to someone else.

Typical case: a publisher gets hundreds of ISBNs in bulk. At some point they close their business. The agency can give the unused numbers to someone else. Determining which were unused is not always easy, since there is no requirement to inform them when one is assigned to a book -- therefore mistakes are made. The end result is that re-use is possible (and actually happens).

In the end it's just some number on a book, but in an ideal world a ISBN is not reused and only assigned to one book.

What can be done when a book is printed with the wrong ISBN?

A new, unused ISBN must be assigned to the book, stickers or labels made and placed on the books, and all industry databases updated with the new, correct ISBN

I have seen two different books with same ISBN. I'm not sure this is mistake or normal thing.
In Europe, this seems to be the standard model, especially with small publishers who have maybe 10 ISBNs and cycle their catalogue regularly.
It should not be re-used, but it is definitely a thing that happens sometimes, though rarely in my (used to work on library software) experience.