[jmtame]

I feel I should chime in since I know BC. I've been dating a girl now for 2 years because of a party he invited me to, and have to admit he handled this way better than I could have (and he has way more game than I do). I was a big wimp when it came down to it: I carried a ring on one of my fingers because I knew if I intentionally "lost" it from a girl I was talking to who I really liked, I had an excuse to go on a first date with her. At some point, this girl (now my girlfriend) at this party gave me her phone, and what else would I do with it besides call myself so that I was guaranteed to get her number? I'm really surprised she talked to me after that. I did get the first date though.

I think the points they made were valid; a lot of women seem to love gossip and things that I don't find interesting, but apparently that's a great way to start/carry a conversation with the type of woman who goes to a bar.

Most women I have met at bars were not interesting to me though. Nearly every girl I've dated has had something nerdy about her and I've met them through my own social circles; my last girlfriend was really into graphic design and the one I'm dating now studied biomedical engineering. Birds of a feather flock together?