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by beart 1518 days ago
I prefer scoop instead of chocolatey. Also winget just doesn't feel like a finished product.

https://scoop.sh/

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Preference has nothing to do with it. We are not in the fashion store.

Scoop is way inferior by number of packages and stability. Mainstream chocolatey packages are embedded which means you don't need network to install them so you can cache them (artifactory, nexus...).

Even for networked packages Chocolatey has its own CDN that keeps them even when vendor removes it (its commercial though).

With scoop, as with brew and winget typically only latest packages work, packages are flaky, and 404 will be your constant friend. Since those package managers do not allow adding binary files they are for causal use, not professional.

I would like to use scoop, but as long as it functions like that, you can't rely on any package working in near future.

I would not use scoop for any sort of build environment.

I have used Chocolatey in the past. I would often run into problems where the commands would leave an application in an inconsistent state - could no longer upgrade, uninstall, or install without some manual intervention. I also ended up having to manually install packages and frameworks because the chocolatey version was way behind the latest version. Basically I always felt like I was fighting against chocolatey rather than it being a tool of convenience.

Maybe it has gotten better in the past few years, but I have completely soured on it by those experiences.

Yeah, it got a lot better in the past few years. It was disaster 5+ years ago, as NO package was embedded and there were number of badly designed components such as package parameter parsing. Even now its far from perfect but its better then anything else on Windows.

I don't work for Chocolatey but I am active as community maintainer. I also created AU - framework for automatic updates - which is used on largest community repository. You can see its multiple-per-day output here:

https://gist.github.com/choco-bot/a14b1e5bfaf70839b338eb1ab7...

All the packages marked with download icon are embedded, they contain the software and will work forever. AU also has plugin that publishes them on Github releases also, so even if Chocolatey goes down or not exists any more you will be still able to use them.

Quality of packages there is great, and there are more and more package maintainers that use the guidelines provided.

On the negative side, Chocolatey team behaves toward community repository like it is freak accident of nature rather then major and most important component of the product.