[Freaken]

I can vouch for the Framework. It doesn't feel beta at all. I'm running Xubuntu 21.10 on it an it rocks. Someone created a repo with salt scripts which works all the kinks of the laptop under Ubuntu. The only thing I needed it for was to fix the touchpad issue after resume from sleep (it would be at max acceleration) and to enable hibernate (just note that you must disable secure boot first). https://github.com/lightrush/framework-laptop-formula

[tomrod]

+1 for Framework as well. With recently launching a company, I have been evaluating laptop builds for my soon-to-hire employees. Thinkpads were at the top followed by XPS builds (which have been terribly variable in quality in recent year, unfortunately).

I am now using a Framework as a daily driver w/ Fedora and it is wonderful! Deep sleep needs work still, but everything else is working great. Plus Framework works well with Windows as well.

[kellogs_aran]

Hi. OP here. ThinkPads have come up a lot generally in this and other threads. I am definitely considering them too.

The Framework Laptop still has some issues that need ironing out from what I could tell so cannot to commit to them this time round. Will definitely keep an eye on them though.

Thank you.

[qudat]

I also have a framework laptop and love it.

Article I wrote about it: https://erock.io/2021/11/01/framework-vs-mbp.html

Battery life will be an issue for OP. Also, the speakers are by far the worst feature.

[kellogs_aran]

Hi. OP here. I also came across the battery issue but good to know about the speakers as well. Thank you.

[theferalrobot]

Anyone else here have the annoying hinge issue where the laptop screen won’t stay up? I even got new hinges and the problem remains… maybe just bad luck. Between that and battery life though I would exercise some caution OP.

I love the framework ethos and plan to continue supporting them but imo they do have kinks to work out.

[cassepipe]

Haha this is one of the thing I wanted to know about the framework, thanks for the feedback. All of my laptops were still running fine when they became unusable because of the broken plastic structure around the hinges. I managed to fix that on this one using small bolts. I was eyeing towards Framework for my next laptop after this one falls apart wondering how durable it could be. Maybe I'll still buy that if they ever allow us to buy just the plastic case but I am seriously considering the sturdiness of a M1 running Linux. I may have to start to donate to Asahi Linux now as MacOs is a big nono. Or maybe I can find an old intel MPB that runs Linux well ?

[jjcon]

Framework has said they are going to release new hinges that are sturdier, and they are extremely easy to swap out. The benefit of the Framework is that any kinks can be easily fixed... still kinks are annoying.

[cassepipe]

Thanks for the information.I may have changed mind once again.

[kellogs_aran]

> I love the framework ethos and plan to continue supporting them but imo they do have kinks to work out.

kinks is the word :) True that's what a lot of users have mentioned also.

[aquaticsunset]

+1 to the Framework as well. My only issue is the aforementioned sleep power draw, but they're a pretty smart group of folks. I'm pretty sure they'll figure this out in time.

[jamal-kumar]

I can't vouch from personal experience but the framework is so good that one of my friends is just giving away his old laptop to me, which I think says a lot

[k8sToGo]

Yes but Framework does not support selling to businesses yet and, thus, can't create an invoice. Maybe this is an important point to some.

[nickstinemates]

+1 for Framework laptop. On the road and typing from one now.

[yumraj]

My current problem with framework is the small screen size. As someone who doesn't use an external monitor, the 13.5" screen is smaller than I'd like.

Hopefully they'll launch a 15"-16" variant in the near future.

[nzealand]

If you want longevity, for under $2k, you should not rule out the Framework because it is "beta."

They have a store of easily replaceable parts. You can replace almost anything that breaks.

I have already replaced the keyboard. Don't ask.

[kryptn]

Also a fan of my Framework. Spent just about $2k on the dot too. Running Pop!_OS and haven't really had any issues.

My work machine is a macbook pro, but I'd happily work on my framework instead.

[mwilliamson]

I've also gotten a Framework laptop, and am happily running XFCE on Debian testing.

One thing I'm curious about is how other people are handling the resolution of the screen on Linux? It doesn't seem like XFCE currently supports fractional scaling well, so I ended up defining a custom 3:2 resolution and using that to increase the size of everything by about 1.5x.

[mvkel]

It doesn't feel beta, but requires salt scripts to make it work correctly?

[RosanaAnaDana]

How is the battery life?

[TranquilMarmot]

Battery life on my Framework on Windows is decent. I can get probably 5 hours out of it doing light dev work. Doesn't hold a candle to my work M1 Macbook's battery, but I enjoy using it a lot more.