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by josephg 1516 days ago
Here in Australia, “guys” is generally used in a gender neutral way. Even when hanging out with groups of only women, I’ll use it and so will others without batting an eye. Eg, “What are you guys doing after this?”

Years ago I had an American friend tell me “guys” was sexist. I’ve been thinking about it for years since her comment. I think in an Australian context she’s wrong. And I think we move in the direction of gender equality by making words less gendered. Not by inserting gender bias where there was none.

You make “landlord” a gendered term by policing it as such. What a waste of a good word.

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In the USA, guys can be used in a gender neutral context, but it also can be used to refer to males only.

"Ok guys, lets go to lunch" is probably gender neutral.

"Guys line up on the right, gals on the left" is not.

"Do you sleep with guys?" is not gender neutral.

In South Africa "guys" is gender neutral too.

I wish the Americans can keep their weird culture war within their own borders.

This one is still widely argued; many women say they don't care and are happy to be included in the guys, and others consider it a real terrible thing to say. I have to conclude that it's unlikely that stopping using guys as a gender-neutral address will truly move the needle in equality.
> an American friend tell me “guys” was sexist.

How odd.

Did you ask why they are so sensitive? Most of us elsewhere on the planet would laugh at such a ridiculously petty statement.