[alexryndin]

You can't say "fiction" to anything just because you don't like it. There is always a another side, always, but you just say "fiction".

I really liked your comment:

>This happens everywhere. I personally know someone in Russia who sent their kids to very sketchy pan-Slavic 'rodnover' far-right camps.

I'm looking forward to you showing where in Russia children were taught to kill Russians and yell "Москаляку на гиляку" (hang up the Russians)

It is not so much the presence of nationalists that is important (as you said "This happens everywhere"), but the attitude of the country towards them (Nazis Germany doesn't happen everywhere).

[JAlexoid]

> You can't say "fiction" to anything just because you don't like it.

No. It's fiction, because it's not true and completely fabricated. I mean... for years I was told by Russian TV that I am persecuted and discriminated in Lithuania - I'm ethnically Russian from Lithuania. Which is complete BS. They told me that Lithuanians were Nazi collaborators and all resistance to Soviet occupation was just Nazis. Which is a blatant lie.

So when I say that nothing that Russian propaganda says is true - I actually mean that not a single word is to be een remotely trusted.

> I'm looking forward to you showing where in Russia children were taught to kill Russians and yell "Москаляку на гиляку" (hang up the Russians)

In Lithuania we had a whole scandal, of a Russian school sending kids to a summer camp in Russia. Where they were trained to use guns and taught that Soviet Union was great and Lithuanians are Nazis.

Also - Москаляку на гиляку - doesn't translate "hang", it's Send the Russian(singular) to the guillotine.

>It is not so much the presence of nationalists that is important (as you said "This happens everywhere"), but the attitude of the country towards them (Nazis Germany doesn't happen everywhere).

The attitude in Ukraine towards Nazism is bad. I mean... Nationalists didn't even get 2% in the last elections, not to mention complete lack of Nazis.

[kspacewalk2]

>You can't say "fiction" to anything just because you don't like it. There is always a another side, always, but you just say "fiction".

That is, of course, incorrect, but very telling. Willing victims of Russian propaganda use this line all the time. In fact, very often there is no other side, because facts exist.

>I'm looking forward to you showing where in Russia children were taught to kill Russians and yell "Москаляку на гиляку" (hang up the Russians)

You're (pretend-) surprised that a country suffering from an invasion teaches its children to hate and wish to harm the invaders? If you think that's bad, I got news for you, champ. It is now officially quite legal to put an invading moskalyaka onto that tree branch right now, or take them out in more modern ways. Ukrainians are allowed to fight against the occupying force using any means necessary, and they do. Not only is there nothing wrong with killing an invader who attacks your home and murders your neighbours, it is a noble and just thing to do.

>It is not so much the presence of nationalists that is important (as you said "This happens everywhere"), but the attitude of the country towards them (Nazis Germany doesn't happen everywhere).

Nazi Germany and Zigist Russia indeed doesn't happen everywhere, only in places where the ruling despot becomes a deluded fascist, drunk on his own power and trying to pass his own ignorant mis-understanding of history as reality.

[alexryndin]

If you are not surprised that "a country teaches its children to hate and wish to harm the invaders" years before the invasion then don't be surprised when the invasion actually happens.

I can't imagine the level of your ignorance about how receptive children are and what monsters will ultimately grow as a result of such training.

what about "Москаляку на гиляку", i'm sorry, but I'm very far from a clear understanding of this kind of statements, while you seem to demonstrate a high level of awareness.

[kspacewalk2]

The invasion started in 2014, so not sure what you mean by 'years before the invasion'. And I'm not surprised in the slightest that the invasion actually happened. I have relatives in Russia and I understand how widespread fascism is there among the common people. Putin is quite moderate by comparison.

>I can't imagine the level of your ignorance about how receptive children are and what monsters will ultimately grow as a result of such training.

These children will grow up as people who understand that being willing to kill invaders and aggressors is a prerequisite for freedom.

>what about "Москаляку на гиляку", i'm sorry, but I'm very far from a clear understanding of this kind of statements, while you seem to demonstrate a high level of awareness.

It's an archaic phrase that simply means invaders from Russia ought to be strung up. No one really uses it these days, a much more relevant 21st century equivalent is "пали русню в танчиках". They're rather heavy and burn well, so why strain your back, you know?

[alexryndin]

Помню как 24 февраля я был в шоке от того, что началась бессмысленная и кровопролитная спецоперация. Зачем? Для чего? Помню, как подписывался под призывами прекратить вторжение, вписался во все петиции, которые нашёл, хотел было на митинги выходить, не спал ночами и смотрел новости. Потом внутри начало всё устаканиваться, в конце концов, я не первый год наблюдал за тем, что происходило на Донбассе.

Теперь же благодаря таким, как ты, я отлично понимаю, что всё сделано правильно, и дальше откладывать было просто нельзя. С вами мир построишь, с мыслями о том, как вы будете москалей вешать и сжигать в танках, ага. Соседей, как ты пишешь, на деревьях вешать, это что в голове надо иметь?

Было, было уже такое, великая германия, арии, очистить землю! Гнали до Берлина.

[kspacewalk2]

Your supposed month-long personal journey from being anti-war toward being an enthusiastic supporter of Russian fascism and war crimes is about as believable (and as boring) as your demented fuhrer's history lessons.

It shouldn't have to be spelled out, but of course the best way to ensure "neighbours" don't get burnt inside tanks or strung up on Ukrainian trees is for them to stay the fuck away from Ukrainian trees, and to keep their tanks well clear of Ukraine.