[tablespoon]

> X: there are no use cases

> Y: here are the use cases

You misunderstand. My gist was there were no practical use cases, and the response was to enumerate some impractical ones. I think the thing that confuses some people is that (like cryptography) some of the biggest problems are on the onramps and offramps, not in the core technology itself.

> X&Z: let's downvote and be negative anyway.

It's right an proper to be negative about something that doesn't really work (when compared against alternatives), especially when that thing is as overhyped as cryptocurrency is.

If it actually worked, the value would be obvious, and wouldn't need to be constantly justified by the kind of contrived use cases that are usually offered.

[koonsolo]

Like I said, if someone comes with an obvious use case, and you claim it's not a use case, or however you want to twist your words ( impractical use case or whatever), well, then the discussion ends right there. What else do you want to discuss then?

[tablespoon]

> Like I said, if someone comes with an obvious use case, and you claim it's not a use case, or however you want to twist your words ( impractical use case or whatever), well, then the discussion ends right there. What else do you want to discuss then?

Did you not read the comment where outlined some of the holes in those use cases?

Here's a gist of how these coversations usually go:

>>>> We should use literal bricks as currency.

>>> That sounds dumb and pointless.

>> No it isn't. Here's an obvious use case: if you want to buy something from me, you can push over a wheelbarrow of bricks to make the exchange. This is superior to fiat because it's hard currency, and far more difficult to steal than banknotes or even precious metal coins. No way the government can confiscate it, it's too heavy. IT'S THE FUTURE OF MONEY!!1!

> That doesn't make any sense. It's a PITA to cart around bricks, banknotes and coins are way more convenient. Also the government has trucks.

[koonsolo]

If it has a $2T market cap and people are actually using it for that usecase, what the fuck are you arguing then?

But like I said before, these kinds of discussions are totally useless.

You don't get the usecase, fine, no problem, move on already, there is no point of discussing this any longer.

[tablespoon]

> If it has a $2T market cap and people are actually using it for that usecase, what the fuck are you arguing then?

Market cap doesn't mean squat here. The one use case that cryptocurrency has satisfied is being a speculative investment.

If some true-believer dude claims he's actually carting around brick-bux in a wheelbarrow and that it's great for buying things (and maybe occasionally actually making a transaction), that doesn't actually mean it's a good choice for that use case. It just means that guy isn't making very good decisions (or is dishonest).

> But like I said before, these kinds of discussions are totally useless.

No. There's quite a lot of utility in disputing BS, because that has a chance of eventually making it go away.

> You don't get the usecase, fine, no problem, move on already, there is no point of discussing this any longer.

I do understand the use case, I just think the application of cryptocurrency to it is BS. If you think there's no point discussing it, you're welcome to stop.

[TomSwirly]

> You don't get the usecase

Another possibility is that they get the use-case and consider it worthless. As we have seen repeatedly in this space, popularity seems to have no correlation with technical viability, so this "$2 trillion can't be wrong" argument lacks solidity.

[koonsolo]

If some people are actually using it as a means to store value outside governments reach, then you might dislike the usecase as much as you like. People are using it that way, so it's a valid usecase. Like I said, there is not much to discuss here anyway.

Edit: if you are not willing to admit that crypto allows you to store or move value outside of governments reach, then there is 0 reason to discuss further. And it doesn't even matter at that point who is wrong or not.