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> 20-30 minutes grocery shopping or dining is the new charge experience

I would say charging at work (during the day, using solar energy exported into the grid). Or at night, capturing off-peak power generation is the new charge experience.

Currently, DC Fast Charging is very expensive to build out and using them frequently reduces battery capacity over time.

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> I would say charging at work

I don't know the numbers offhand, but Vancouver has a pretty low rate of driving commutes compared to most North American cities.

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I agree, but DC fast charging is mandatory for road trips, and a necessary shim until work, home, and apartment charging infra gets scaled out (a friend has a Tesla but no home charging, they charge at the grocery store once per week, for example).

Colocate level 2 chargers (~10-15kw) where cars dwell for hours at a time, put Fast DC chargers where people need to eat or use a bathroom. Even a 120v outlet would be fine for use cases like long term parking at an airport, which fully charges an EV in ~4-5 days.