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by SkyBelow 1517 days ago
>There will _always_ be such restrictions. For an extreme, but derived from the same philosophical core, example: the act of murder is an individual freedom, but it imposes on other peoples' freedoms. So we have to make a choice between which freedom is more important: that of the person whose life is at risk, or that of the person who wants to take lives. The formal concepts are referred to as negative liberty (freedom from murder) and positive liberty (freedom to murder someone).

Your example seems messy because people seem very opposed to the notion of a freedom to cause harm as even being a freedom. So why not avoid that complication entirely?

I think there is an even simpler example that'll work. If one is truly a free person, can they sell themselves into slavery. If we say yes, then allowing slavery is part of the package of ultimate freedom. If we say no, then there is at least one restriction we must include in the package of ultimate freedom. Package of ultimate freedom just being a spur of the moment name I've given to the legal system under which we are most free. Lastly, an answer of the form 'no one should exist in a position of being able to stop you from doing such', such as provided by anarchists, it just an alternate way of answering yes to the question.

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I don't think that's the answer provided by anarchists. As far as I understand it, most anarchistic ideas explicitly rely on communities being able to stop you from doing harm. Anarchism is pretty far from libertarian views on individual freedom.
>communities being able to stop you from doing harm

I don't get how these don't qualify as a government. A very small scale one, but still a government.

But either way, that isn't relevant to the example. It is still either a yes/no question, and <insert your chosen name for group that believes in no entities of any sort that can enforce their will on you or change your behavior without your full consent> claiming that there should be no group who can stop you is still answering yes.