[jsjohnst]

> when can you claim something as secure?

here’s a maybe wild take, uh, never?

[capableweb]

But you'd agree with me that some things are more secure than others right?

[jsjohnst]

I’d be willing to say “there are things with known exploits, there are things which employ techniques that are known not to be safe making them less secure, and the rest is more akin to Schrödinger's cat as far as secureness goes.”