[pyinstallwoes]

I started making music. I picked guitar and electronic music production. It seems to be the nexus of all the things I found interesting in my life: creativity, esoteric knowledge, geometry and mathematics, language, technicality.

I never thought I’d go down the music path seriously but now it’s the only thing I can generate a sense of purpose from and I am enjoying it. Music is the perfect universal thing to unify all abstractions in life in a common core. It seems the ancients had this knowledge but over the years learning music became less and less mandatory and or important.

Music, I’ve come to learn, _is_ the universal language between all things and connects to everything in a very real way to such an extent it can show the relation between abstract models in a tangible way because it’s the bridge between realities. For instance color, geometry, frequency, scales, and ratios/celestial orbits. They all integrate (have in common with music).

Sentience etymologically is a Being which feels; to feel is to aware of vibrations from frequencies, music is the experience of integrating all the senses into one.

Just my thoughts and experience. Feel free to ignore.

[trendoid]

This is not relevant to OP but I am wondering if you can share how you went about learning electronic music production. Any good resources or advice?

[jsilence]

Some random advice in no particular order.

* Music production on the PC can be really cheap, almost for free, but it can be really overwhelming and hard to figure out where to start.

* The hardware synth (dawless) route can be a deep rabbit hole leading to GAS (gear aquisition syndrome). Resist.

* Music is more about intervals, the distances between notes, than about the notes themselves. Let this sink in.

* If I were to only buy one piece of gear at all, I'd buy the Synthstrom Deluge. Really immediate, easy to get into and still deep and powerful. This the device you want.

* If the Deluge is out of your budget, get a used Novation Circuit on Craigslist.

* The limitations hardware synths have, can be a challenge sparking creativity. Embrace the limitations.

* Layers.

* Don't fill up all the space. Deliberately leave some room.

* Record everything.

* There are no wrong notes. There is only tension and release. Tension can be good. It is interesting. Learn to build tension and how to release it. Practice.

* Don't overthink it. Practice. Better to knock out a bunch of shitty or mediocre tracks than thinking about that one smash hit you never make.

* Modular is a money grave. VCVRack is for free. Omri Cohen is your best friend in this realm. Bespoke synth gives you even more freedom.

* Music theory is helpful if you understand that it is only a lighthouse. You can still go whereever you want.

* Start here if you are a computer nerd: https://eev.ee/blog/2016/09/15/music-theory-for-nerds/

* Start here if you are afraid of Music theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoeHDN2FVTc

[random_moonwalk]

After deciding on a DAW, IMO the first pieces of gear worth investing in are decent studio monitors and headphones. Nothing helped more to improve my music than being able to hear it properly.

[trendoid]

Thanks a lot, that was great! Any particular resources online that helped you in learning electronic music production?

[jsilence]

Mostly Youtube.

There are some good channels about gear, like Loopop, BoBeats, Gabe Miller. I spent too much time there. Regarding making music I got more out of Andrew Huang, Red Means Recording, Adam Neely, David Bennett and Underdog Electronic Music School.

I watched Music Theory videos for a while because I wanted to understand it. That one Synth Seeker video in my previous post is the one where it clicked for me.

If you are lacking inspiration as a beginner, not knowing what to do sitting in front of your gear, you might want to recreate songs you like. Makes you listen and analyse what the creator did and train how to achive this on you own gear.

[pyinstallwoes]

This is excellent advice. I'm still learning, however the closest thing to "learning music" is "learning programming" in the sense that, at least for me, the way I learned programming was to just immerse myself in it. Let curiosity drive me but try to have some goals.

However in the beginning no one knows what their goals really are, and that learning curve is really brutal for programming and music is the only other thing that I've done that has an equivalent feeling of "I suck at this" until it just "clicks" and then you're over the hump and now you can at least understand the map of the territory vs not even know how to navigate the map. Similarly to programming, it can feel like you're in a submarine of thousands of buttons not knowing which to push for what to do whatever.

I hit my stride learning programming when I tried to build stuff instead of just follow tutorials or books. I think Music or really anything is quite the same; you just have to align motivation and discipline with experimentation. Easier said than done of course.

Besides that, I highly echo the tone of constraints that jsilence made. Leverage constraints so you narrow your field of focus to learn the fundamentals and you'll naturally grow out of the "fog of war" so to speak without overwhelming yourself, plus it'll feel rewarding working within a area of constraint. For example:

1. Pick Ableton Live - it's a great DAW for both live music and recording. They really upped their game with the last update to 11 and their overall UI is very well designed in mind of all archetypes of musicianship.

2. Use stock Ableton plugins for everything as your primary constraint. A lot of people go yak shaving on plugins similarly to text editors and language wars in programming. The stock plugins are extremely high quality and anyone dismisinng them probably doesn't know what they're talking about and just drinking the cool-aid. Side note: you'll hear extremely conflicting ways to accomplish things in Music because it has many ways to reach a conclusion similar to code.

3. Focus on a particular genre of music that you like so you can have fun and enjoy it. It's really important to try to just have fun - it helps get 'in the flow' but also be mindful of 'experimenting without getting anything done' force yourself to 'finish a track' even if it's just a 4/4 beat over 64 bars with 2 unique loops of 4 bars. Those types of 'configurations' can really make you grow quick in my opinion.

4. Most importantly as also jsilence pointed out, and I only recently really digested the significance of this: music is all about the in-between, the space, the pause which gives life to the "pulse" and if you understand three things: 1. Pulse 2. What is different 3. What is similar then you will understand all music.

tl;dr in the beginning it's okay to suck, embrace it and have fun with some constraints. Avoid overwhelming yourself with yak-shaving. The pulse is everything.

[jsilence]

Well said!!