[eimrine]

That is not the war Germany started but the war Germany plays a significant role. You are so great guys in creating things but here in UA there are some claims that Germany created a warlord Putin... Btw Germany is significantly more northern then we and I think at least they need more gas for heating than we. Would be nice if Germany finds a powerful source of electricity for burning less gas at least for that.

[theGeatZhopa]

This are the claims. Also there are claims that Ukraina created the warlord Putin by doin everything not to stop the start of this war.. depends on the sources one consume. Stealing gas and not wanting to pay for several times in 2004-2008, and more like that. Also, keeping pushing the front lines since 2014, each time advancing more and more and pushing the separatists back, until Putin started the war on other reasons and using his "we save that people" on the forehand, while seeing a different agenda on the backhand. That never ever is a justification of the happenings, but one should consider that both fighting parties are not as clean as they pretend to be, with one being dirtier than the other.

If I were in the position, I would try to settle the whole thing down as early as possible in the interest of my people and not try to fight back. Just a few kilometers² of area and very few losses in trade to chances to be a gatekeeper to Europe, less damage/costs, everything being able to operate further.. what would you choose?

The Ukraine and Ukrainian people will get as much can be given. Germany was a part of the befriending project in former times and it will be playing the same part in future - it's up to Ukraine to rethink the whole situation. They lost so much. The help, that Ukraine needs from other countries in near future, can't be taken only by a few countries. As one of the wealthiest countries, Germany will be the one who gives the most in Europe. If we cut gas at once, I don't think there will be any money left for helping then. We've twice as much people and the last 20 years opened up the rich-poor-scissors even more. The people wouldn't understand such a decision - the government is forced to walk on a line here. And yes, the pressure is big enough to minimize gas from RF.

and truly, I don't believe it would help anything. We can't cut buying resources from RF. Its not possible. The whole industry has just transformed to EV and stopped/stopping production of NEV. We need what they sell. As long there are no alternatives, I'm sorry, so long there are no alternatives.

Nevertheless. I hope it's a bad dream.