[zorr]

I'm a dev that spends 90% of his computer time with a JB IDE open and I'll give you my perspective on it. It just works out of the box (or with a couple of 1-click install plugins) for practically all my use cases.

* I mostly write Kotlin/Java for backend, desktop and Android projects. JB has that covered: Gradle integration, refactoring, navigation, dependency updates, documentation viewer, visual git log/diff/merge/rebase/blame, visual Android layout editor, visual JavaFX/Swing layout editors, run configurations, step through debugger that shows current variable state on top of my source code, all the android resource/variant stuff, test runners, trigger tests from source code, tool windows for docker (compose) or other services and probably much more.

* I do C/C++ development on some projects in Clion which has most of the stuff from above but :s/Gradle/CMake/g.

* Aside from the above I also use my IntelliJ Ultimate for Python, Ruby, Golang, Rust, Markdown, Mermaid graphs, Kubernetes yamls and Terraform hcl files, Lua and probably some more. All with the excellent IdeaVIM plugin so I have my modal editing and ex commands.

I gladly pay $600/year for all this. If I have to spend one day (likely more) on configuring vim/nvim to even do a subset of what I mentioned, then JB is cheaper.

So, that is why I switched from years of Vim use (and a couple years of Emacs before that) to JB and I haven't looked back. I don't see why I should artificially limit myself to vim/terminal only when JB+IdeaVIM gets me the best of both combined.

[escot]

Purpose built tools like jet brains IDEs are super nice. What I like about an OSS terminal based editor is that all of the languages, frameworks, etc you listed above may change in the next 10 years. Or 5 years. And again that many times during my career. I'd rather not have to retool each time that happens. I like being able to jump into some area thats new to me, like data science or graphics, and have my existing tools just work (other than proprietary stuff like iOS dev).

[xigoi]

You're paying about a minute every time you have to wait for your IDE to start. That quickly adds up.

[zorr]

<15 seconds, yes. Once a day in the morning when my machine boots and I'm brewing my coffee.

[oblio]

I've had systems were the IDE starts up after the OS boots and the OS is only shut down for security upgrades every few months.

Different workflows.